No Cover Versions!

[RicP]

shouldn't Ric Perrott's self-admitted cover of "Will It Go etc.'

If you gave Ric Perrott a chance to get to the computer and delete his self-admitted cover, then you'd see that it's already gone, along with "Here Comes The Sun."

[The Cellar]

Sorry Ric, no offence meant, and full marks to you for pulling the cover numbers, but when I looked at the site "Will......" was still there and "Here Comes The Sun" had gone. And "White Wedding" is still there.

[RicP]

No offence taken. I think what happens is that the song stays on the chart for awhile after it's been taken down, but if you try to play it you get an error page. The chart doesn't fully refresh for awhile.

I'm hoping we can find a way in the future to have an alternate section for these types of tracks. I personally find it very interesting to hear an artist's interpretation of existing songs.

[Fortyteen]

After all, if one of us wrote a great original song and then heard copies of it being played on the radio without receiving any benefit, we might be fairly annoyed.

Very interesting comment because that is the key point. And for those who've been here for the last few weeks, you'll have read that Rich is actually in the process of fighting a legal battle for that exact reason.

It wouldn't really look good if the the other guys lawyer said Mr Senior, you say you want to see the right thing done which is credit for the song you wrote and payment of royalties, yet you are hosting a web site with covers on it for which you are not paying appropriate fees. One rule for you Mr Senior, and another for the rest of us?

[sixstringhack]

Just a quick reminder that not everyone checks the forum all the time, so some people are not yet aware of cover tune status. I e-mailed someone today concerning the cover song situation and to talk a bit about it...he had no idea what was happening....so I'm sure they will all be gone once everyone reads the news.

See-ya......

[ifingers]

What about the play count of Cover songs once their pulled?

Will the number stay the same?

-Hasta

The total amount will remain in your total plays in your band pages - but the song(s) will disappear from the charts...

rich

peace

[Fortyteen]

Rich

Two things....

1) Someone posted a cover! You need that rule message on the song posting page To protect the rights of the original artists to earn royalties from
covers of their songs (which may one day be you), MacIdol no longer
allows the posting of cover songs.

2) I noticed that all the covers that were removed, their listing in the all time highest played songs also disappeared. I don't mind that for those covers, but it would be nice if it could be changed coz it would be nice to still see removed originals in that list (with a link to a message that says: This song has been removed. If you wish to hear it, contact the artist. And then a contact link for the artist.)

[toots]

Whoops! I guess I need to check the forum for news more frequently. I just removed my cover of "Mutineer" today. Too bad, I thought it was a pretty good version of a more-or-less obscure Warren Zevon song that was done respectfully and tastefully and for totally non-commercial reasons. My son, who is a very talented (but band-less at the moment) lead vocalist wanted to get something different up on the net for prospective band-mates to check out. But as a writer, I totally respect this situation. It was fun while it lasted though.

[ifingers]

Chris -

Rich

Two things....

1) Someone posted a cover! You need that rule message on the song posting page To protect the rights of the original artists to earn royalties from
covers of their songs (which may one day be you), MacIdol no longer
allows the posting of cover songs.

2) I noticed that all the covers that were removed, their listing in the all time highest played songs also disappeared. I don't mind that for those covers, but it would be nice if it could be changed coz it would be nice to still see removed originals in that list (with a link to a message that says: This song has been removed. If you wish to hear it, contact the artist. And then a contact link for the artist.)

1 That's a really good idea - I have got a note in the new users sign up agreement - but the existing users won't see that - unless they visit the forum...

2) I don't know if I would be able to do that... I will try and find a way to do this tho

Thanks

Rich

peace

[ifingers]

Whoops! I guess I need to check the forum for news more frequently. I just removed my cover of "Mutineer" today. Too bad, I thought it was a pretty good version of a more-or-less obscure Warren Zevon song that was done respectfully and tastefully and for totally non-commercial reasons. My son, who is a very talented (but band-less at the moment) lead vocalist wanted to get something different up on the net for prospective band-mates to check out. But as a writer, I totally respect this situation. It was fun while it lasted though.

Toots

I am very sorry I can't host it! But by all means put a link to this song - if you can host it somewhere else - on your MacIDOL band pages.

Thanks

Rich

peace

[sarmoung]

I used to work for the PRS quite a few years ago in music licensing. I found it a bit depressing to be harassing hairdressers in Swindon for a fee because they had the radio on in the background at work. Nevertheless, the PRS can be quite pushy about this sort of stuff and, although it's highly unlikely, they do have the legal right to demand payment for the use of copyright material. Although the geographical location of the site is problematic legally. Covers are still viable, just observe the 75 year rule to be safe. So, we're in the clear with Monteverdi, Bach, Mozart, etc... Hmm...

I only bought GB yesterday so I'm just playing around at the moment. It's not perfect, but it is pretty much child's play to get something done quickly without losing creative interest through technical issues. Soon enough I'll get something up somewhere. Probably not Monteverdi though!

[ifingers]

I used to work for the PRS quite a few years ago in music licensing. I found it a bit depressing to be harassing hairdressers in Swindon for a fee because they had the radio on in the background at work. Nevertheless, the PRS can be quite pushy about this sort of stuff and, although it's highly unlikely, they do have the legal right to demand payment for the use of copyright material. Although the geographical location of the site is problematic legally. Covers are still viable, just observe the 75 year rule to be safe. So, we're in the clear with Monteverdi, Bach, Mozart, etc... Hmm...

I only bought GB yesterday so I'm just playing around at the moment. It's not perfect, but it is pretty much child's play to get something done quickly without losing creative interest through technical issues. Soon enough I'll get something up somewhere. Probably not Monteverdi though!

Hi Welcome to MacIDOL!

I wish you had joined a couple of weeks ago...

Yeah the PRS were very helpful on the phone - shame to have had to drop the covers even tho we were not charging... but thats the law, and I want to be totally legal here.

Looking forward to your GB tunes.

Rich

peace

[maggieo]

I'm beginning to understand why we Americans fought that there revolution- for the freedom to cover songs!!!

[kilroydegeek]

if one of us wrote a great original song and then heard copies of it being played on the radio without receiving any benefit, we might be fairly annoyed.

I see the point, but I personally would be stoked to the max, coz although I'd like to get paid for my music, I'm just an old fashioned "hobby slut" desperately craving an audience

So, if any radio station programme managers are reading this, "Idea Hamster (My Muse)" is fair game, royalty free, good to go!

If anybody wants to cover it, my .band file (or individual AIF builds for each track) is available - just ask. (U2 or the like might have to pay a teency fee for the priveledge, but...)

[Fortyteen]

So, if any radio station programme managers are reading this, "Idea Hamster (My Muse)" is fair game, royalty free, good to go!

Send it to Triple J. Sign it from One J(ay).

Also, I think you are hard on it genreing it Pop. It's much better than Pop. And it can't be Pop coz it didn't do anything for my wife! I'd put it more in the same category of the likes of "The Church"