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Anything about creating, performing, and listening to music, regarding the equipment used.
Discuss your music making and listening equipment. Instruments (e.g. guitars, keyboards, mics) Software (e.g. GarageBand, Logic, Pro Tools) Hardware (e.g. computers, iPods, iPhones, iPads, control surfaces)
by ifingers » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:04 pm
<a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html"><img src="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/i/stuff/itube-fatman-tla-ipod.jpg" alt="Fatman iPod Amp"></a>
The <a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html">Fatman iTube Valve iPod Amp and Dock</a> looks kind of sweet, I wonder if it sounds as good as it looks?
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by kilroydegeek » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:08 pm
Valve amps are good room heaters  but the truly environmentally friendly audiophile goes for mosfet power amps. Most of the noise and distortion advanatages of thermionic transistance with none of the disadvantages (heat, warmup times, power bills.)
Nice industrial design, though.
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by ifingers » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:31 pm
fair point, mr killjoydegeek
 what if I built a windmill to power it?
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by slumbering » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:33 am
ifingers wrote:<a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html"><img src="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/i/stuff/itube-fatman-tla-ipod.jpg" alt="Fatman iPod Amp"></a> The <a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html">Fatman iTube Valve iPod Amp and Dock</a> looks kind of sweet, I wonder if it sounds as good as it looks?
Wow, i don't think i'm any older than most of you here, but jebus, i look at the photo and it does NOT compute for me. I must be so out of touch.
There are some amber glassy things that look like salt shakers or dispensers of some sort, filled with Chanel No. 5, or something.
I mean, what is all that stuff? Nothing makes sense when i look at it.
I've never had an iPod or seen one IRL, though, so that could be part of the problem. Although that is the one thing i recognize. The iPod. 
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by maggieo » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:41 am
slumbering wrote:ifingers wrote:<a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html"><img src="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/i/stuff/itube-fatman-tla-ipod.jpg" alt="Fatman iPod Amp"></a> The <a href="http://www.ipresents.co.uk/music/2006/06/fatman-itube-ipod-valve-amplifier.html">Fatman iTube Valve iPod Amp and Dock</a> looks kind of sweet, I wonder if it sounds as good as it looks?
There are some amber glassy things that look like salt shakers or dispensers of some sort, filled with Chanel No. 5, or something. I mean, what is all that stuff?
Those are vacuum tubes, Slumbs. The precursor to the transistor. Guitar amps use them to great effect and, IMO, a tube amp sounds miles better than anything else. MOSFET be damned.
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by kilroydegeek » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:45 am
That probably rates you as younger than the rest of us
The glass thingies are thermionic valves (AKA vacuum tubes), what the wireless used to rely on for amplification and oscillation before those clever japanese figured how to put transistors into those newfangled radio thingies, and ultimately, squeeze a million transisters on a single chip of silicon the size of a little fingernail. (And that's just science fiction stuff  )
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by slumbering » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:50 am
kilroydegeek wrote:That probably rates you as younger than the rest of us 
Not younger, just lost in my own little universe 
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by maggieo » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:58 am
kilroydegeek wrote:That probably rates you as younger than the rest of us  The glass thingies are thermionic valves (AKA vacuum tubes), what the wireless used to rely on for amplification and oscillation before those clever japanese figured how to put transistors into those newfangled radio thingies
Excuse me, but the transistor was invented at Bell Labs, right here in the United States of America and the first transistor radios were made by General Electric, also in the U.S.A..
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by kilroydegeek » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:01 am
The keywords were "figured out how to put them into radios" although I confess, on re-reading, in my attempt to be humourous, I was ambiguous in my presentation and accept the correction  (I should also have said, "...fit them into tiny radios..."  )
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by maggieo » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:17 am
kilroydegeek wrote:The keywords were "figured out how to put them into radios" although I confess, on re-reading, in my attempt to be humourous, I was ambiguous in my presentation and accept the correction  (I should also have said, "...fit them into tiny radios..."  )
Again, it was the US that led in miniaturization of transistorized devices, spurred on by the needs of the space program, who had vaguely pathetic, underpowered rockets that couldn't lift very heavy payloads, unlike the Soviets, who had powerful rockets that could lift any number of tube radios into orbit.
Sorry, I'm a pedant when it comes to this stuff.
Japanese companies were known not for small size, but for style and marketing. Panasonic, in particular was groundbreaking in its transistor radio designs. Remember the donut-like radio that you could wear like a bracelet or crack open and sit on the table?
Man, I love radios.
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by kilroydegeek » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:54 am
maggieo wrote:...Sorry, I'm a pedant when it comes to this stuff...
And rightly so! I was being too facetious for my own good. maggieo wrote:Man, I love radios.
Likewise, and the art of radio, too. It's why I resist all attempts for management to move me into TV sound.
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by maggieo » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:09 am
I listen to Radio Australia (via shortwave) at least once a month (usually catch it once a fortnight, since I'm an insomniac and have a Sony shortwave receiver next to my bed) and BBC World Service (via local FM rebroadcast) every night. There's nothing better than radio, well done.
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by Snow123 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:38 pm
There are some amber glassy things that look like salt shakers or dispensers of some sort, filled with Chanel No. 5, or something.
I mean, what is all that stuff? Nothing makes sense when i look at it.
I've never had an iPod or seen one IRL, though, so that could be part of the problem.
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by johnmusic88 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:55 pm
wow that looks insane i want one!
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